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Deepak Pillai – Data Analyst for Clayton Utz

In this interview, we chat with Deepak Pillai, a data analyst who works at the blue chip Australian law firm Clayton Utz. The firm took the unusual step of building a separate data analytics practice to complement its traditional legal practice. Deepak talks about why law firms might do this, how their clients respond to…

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Jonathan Patterson – Managing Director & Head of Development of DWF Ventures

In this interview, Dean Dan chats with Jonathan Patterson, the Managing Director & Head of Development of DWF Ventures in Manchester, England. DWF is a fascinating example of a law firm that has embraced managed legal operations, legaltech, and design thinking. The firm’s incredibly successful listing this year on the London Stock Exchange was driven…

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EP 11 – Every Law Firm Is a Tech Firm

In this episode we talk about the way that law firms have responded to the new technology world in different ways. This episode’s title comes from an observation we heard from the CEO of a legaltech firm who said that “every law firm is a tech firm.” What he meant was that every firm has…

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Episode 10 – Where Have All The Lawyers Gone?

Lisa Leong, Dean Dan Hunter, and Mike Madison take apart the challenges of modern law practice:  clients increasingly want multi-functional capabilities from their lawyers and firms. The profession is full of talk of “T-shaped” lawyers, who combine deep legal knowledge and broad business and organizational skills. How can firms find, train, and keep these “T-shaped”…

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Interview – Professor Dan Klein aka Dan the Improv Man

Lisa Leong and her business partner Tristan Forrester spent some time hanging out with the delightful Professor Dan Klein from Stanford University.  In this full interview, you will learn: – how to think like an Improviser and why it is important for cultivating an innovation mindset– how improv can encourage lawyer creativity – a few simple…

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Interview – Mick Sheehy

Mick Sheehy is a partner at PWC and was formerly a general counsel at Telstra. He is the founder of CLOC in Australia and joins Dan Hunter to talk about legal ops, managed services, and why law firms should be worried about how the Big 4 are moving into NewLaw.

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Ep 5 – The rise of Legal Ops and Platform plays

Dean Dan has broken out of our ivory tower and gone to speak with a third party! Mick Sheehy was formerly a GC at Telstra – and is now a Partner of New Law @ PwC. We speak about CLOC, Legal Operations, and Tech Platforms. If you don’t know what any of these terms mean…listen…

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Ep 4 – Our (radical) predictions for 2028

Our three brave co-hosts go “on tape” to predict what the legal industry will look like in 2028 (ten years from now). Dean Dan, Lethal Lisa and Most Interesting Mike cover law firms, lawyers and law schools. Nothing is safe. Platform plays and multi-disciplinary practices are also covered. Agree or agree to disagree – please…

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