Legal Education

Interview – Deborah Merritt

Professor Deborah Merritt of the Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University talks with Dan Hunter and Mike Madison about the sources of critical challenge in US law schools today and describes paths to re-invention, including a new focus on clients, for herself, for current students, and for law faculties.

Interview – Michele Pistone

Professor Michele Pistone from the Charles Widger School of Law at Villanova University in Philadelphia talks with Dan Hunter and Mike Madison about disruption in law practice and legal education, about change management in higher education, and about working across the university to build new, cross-disciplinary training for law.  

Interview – Mark Tushnet

In this interview, we chat with Prof Mark Tushnet of Harvard Law School about the changes that he’s seen in US legal education over his illustrious 50 year-long career, and discuss his views about the way that law schools need to change to respond to the challenges ahead. 

Ep 9 – The Future of Legal Education in the US

US law schools today face a double shot of post-2008 challenges. They face changing demand for legal services and legal education, plus changing demographics of prospective students. Law faculty are just now starting to accept that those factors point to large scale disruption of the traditional law school.  Lisa, Dan, and Mike take an inventory of how US law schools got where they are, look at the likely shape of change to come, and – as always – deliver some practical take-aways.

Interview – Dean Gordon Smith

Dan and Mike talk with Gordon Smith, Dean of the J. Reuben Clark Law School at Brigham Young University (BYU) about emerging challenges and opportunities for US law schools.  Gordon’s research and teaching background is in business law and entrepreneurship.  In this interview, he talks about bringing his expertise to bear on innovation and entrepreneurship inside a law school.

Interview – Ray Worthy Campbell

Dean Dan talks with Professor Ray Campbell, from Peking University-School of Transnational Law in Shenzhen, China. Before becoming a law professor, Ray clerked for U.S. Chief Justice Warren Burger of the United States Supreme Court, and was a partner in the multinational law firms of Kirkland & Ellis and Jenner & Block. Listen to his fascinating take on the future of law and the future of legal education in a globalised world. 

Ep7 – The End of Law Schools

Dean Dan and Mike Madison talk about whether the future has caught up with law schools. They catch up with Professor Ray Campbell, from Peking University-School of Transnational Law in Shenzhen, China, who suggests that the future of legal education doesn’t look like the way that we’ve always done things…

Ep 4 – Our (radical) predictions for 2028

Our three brave co-hosts go “on tape” to predict what the legal industry will look like in 2028 (ten years from now). Dean Dan, Lethal Lisa and Most Interesting Mike cover law firms, lawyers and law schools. Nothing is safe. Platform plays and multi-disciplinary practices are also covered.

Agree or agree to disagree – please add to the conversation.

Ep 3 – Dean Dan was into AI before it was Cool

In this episode, Lisa Leong, Mike Madison and Dan Hunter unpack all the hype around “Artificial Intelligence” in the context of law.

Prof Dan was on the public speaking circuit in the 90s banging on about AI – but in those days, no one was listening. Lisa thinks that he was so into AI that he would have dated Siri if she had existed in the 90s. 

(Dan confesses that this is All. Too. True.)

Ep 2 – The Most Interesting American

Introducing our third co-host, Prof Mike Madison from the University of Pittsburgh Law School.

No ordinary law professor, Mike has been “stockpiling” legal education reforms for over a decade. Mike gives us a brief overview of the issues for the future of US-style legal education.