Episode Archives

Interview – Mick Sheehy

Mick Sheehy is a partner at PWC and was formerly a general counsel at Telstra. He is the founder of CLOC in Australia and joins Dan Hunter to talk about legal ops, managed services, and why law firms should be worried about how the Big 4 are moving into NewLaw.

Ep 5 – The rise of Legal Ops and Platform plays

Dean Dan has broken out of our ivory tower and gone to speak with a third party! Mick Sheehy was formerly a GC at Telstra – and is now a Partner of New Law @ PwC. We speak about CLOC, Legal Operations, and Tech Platforms. If you don’t know what any of these terms mean…listen up! 

Ep 4 – Our (radical) predictions for 2028

Our three brave co-hosts go “on tape” to predict what the legal industry will look like in 2028 (ten years from now). Dean Dan, Lethal Lisa and Most Interesting Mike cover law firms, lawyers and law schools. Nothing is safe. Platform plays and multi-disciplinary practices are also covered.

Agree or agree to disagree – please add to the conversation.

Ep 3 – Dean Dan was into AI before it was Cool

In this episode, Lisa Leong, Mike Madison and Dan Hunter unpack all the hype around “Artificial Intelligence” in the context of law.

Prof Dan was on the public speaking circuit in the 90s banging on about AI – but in those days, no one was listening. Lisa thinks that he was so into AI that he would have dated Siri if she had existed in the 90s. 

(Dan confesses that this is All. Too. True.)

Ep 2 – The Most Interesting American

Introducing our third co-host, Prof Mike Madison from the University of Pittsburgh Law School.

No ordinary law professor, Mike has been “stockpiling” legal education reforms for over a decade. Mike gives us a brief overview of the issues for the future of US-style legal education.

Ep 1 – Why this Podcast?

Introducing Lisa Leong, the diminutive disruptor, and Prof Dan Hunter, Dean of Swinburne Law School.

Lisa reminisces about how they met – and then they chat about what this podcast is about, who it is for and why we started it. This episode explores Experience Design – and why, to them, innovation is not “just about the technology.”

Join us to find out how to move beyond “innovation cabaret” in law.