About Us

The Faces Behind The Mic

Show Hosts

Dan Hunter

Dan Hunter is a Professor of Law and the Foundation Dean of Swinburne Law School. He is an international expert in artificial intelligence and law, and the author of books on gamification, intellectual property, and intelligent legal systems. His current research is focused on the use of technology within law, including the use of AI in sentencing and criminal justice, the legal implications of the blockchain, innovation processes within the legal profession, and the future of legal practice. He is a Fellow of the Australian Academy of Law, and a chief investigator in a shortlisted ARC Centre of Excellence bid for “Automated Decision Making and Society.”

Lisa Leong

Lisa Leong is CEO of Ohten APAC, helping organisations develop deeper relationships with their strategic clients, and she is also the ABC Radio Host of weekly show “This Working Life” on ABC RN. She is a former intellectual property and technology lawyer (Melbourne, London, and New York) who draws on her diverse experience combined with Human-Centred Design and Mindfulness practices to bring a fresh approach to intentional conversations, called “Empathy Interviewing.” Her work has been the subject of a Harvard Case Study, numerous industry awards, and her TEDx talk “Can robots make us more human?”, which you can view here. Lisa is a graduate of the Customer Focused Innovation Program of Stanford University’s GSB and the Stanford d.school, the University of Melbourne (Science/Law) and the Australian Film Television and Radio School (Radio Broadcasting).

Mike Madison

Michael Madison is Professor of Law at the University of Pittsburgh School of Law. He is Senior Scholar and Academic Director of the University of Pittsburgh Institute for Cyber Law, Policy, and Security (Pitt Cyber). At Pitt Law, he is Faculty Director of the Innovation Practice Institute (IPI) and a John E. Murray Faculty Scholar. As leader of Pitt Law’s IPI, Madison trains lawyers to succeed in the 21st century legal profession, to contribute collaboratively to the innovation economy, and to become entrepreneurs and leaders. Before becoming a law professor in 1997, he practiced law in San Francisco and Silicon Valley. His awards and distinctions include the Chancellor’s Distinguished Teaching Award at Pitt, a fellowship from the Educating Tomorrow’s Lawyers project at the Institute for the Advancement of the American Legal System (IAALS) in Denver, and election to membership in the American Law Institute in 201

About Our Podcast

The legal system and the legal profession are changing faster than ever.

The development of legaltech, the rise of managed services and legal ops, the changes to student numbers and graduate outcomes–all these trends are converging to make the world of law profoundly different from the law our mothers practised.

This podcast and collaborative blog is about understanding these changes, and not being overwhelmed by the prospect of disruptive innovation. 

We interview a range of voices from across the legal spectrum, from a range of countries and jurisdictions and backgrounds, all focused in some way on coming to grips with the future of law.

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