New Episodes

Margaret Hagan – Director Of The Legal Design Lab At Stanford University

Margaret Hagan, a global leader in bringing design to legal education and law practice, talks with Michael Madison about what design...

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EP 13 – Design Thinking

In this, our last episode for 2019, we finally bring you our long-promised episode on Design Thinking in Law. The terrible...

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Professor Lesley Hitchens, Dean of UTS Law School

Dean Dan has been chatting with a lot of deans of late, and in this interview he talks with Dean Lesley...

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Professor George Williams AO – Dean of UNSW Law School

In this interview, we chat with Prof George Williams AO, dean of UNSW Law School. George has thought a great deal...

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Professor Nick James, Dean of Bond Law School

“The name’s Bond, Professor Nick James from Bond.”  Seriously, I can’t tell you how long I’ve waited to use that joke. ...

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Ep 12 – The Future Of Legal Education In Australia

After diagnosing the state of US legal education a few months ago, in this episode the terrific trio talk about the...

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Show Hosts

Dan Hunter

Dan Hunter is the founding dean of Swinburne Law School.

Lisa Leong

Lisa Leong is CEO of Ohten APAC and a radio presenter.

Mike Madison

Michael Madison is Professor of Law and Faculty Director of the Innovation Practice Institute at the University of Pittsburgh School of Law.

Upcoming Guests

Our guests are thinkers and doers involved in all aspects of the future of law–from legaltech, to legal education, NewLaw business models, and all parts of the legal services industry.

Here are some of our upcoming interviewees –

Mick Sheehy

Dan Klein

The Professor of Improv